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BriGreentea BBQ Pro

Joined: 20 May 2010 Posts: 579 Location: FORT WORTH, TX
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Posted: Tue Feb 22 11 12:43 am Post subject: Fort Worth - Went to another wanna be bbq restaurant in TX |
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Went to another wanna be bbq restaurant in Texas that was far from it. Again, another place that tasted decent but no flavor, no smoke flavor, no bbq flavor....no nothing. So I'm curious....what does most of these places cook with? Ovens? I don't get it. I actually saw a place around here driving by in the corner that was a bbq restaurant and actually saw in the back a patio type area that had real smokers because I could see them. I know having these type of cookers in a kitchen would require seriously good ventilation so monoxide doesn't seep into the whole place but still.
I mean, this place I wanted to try is always in a local add in Fort Worth and first of all they lied...they did not have brisket which is fine because I could kick thier arss with mine but said they had all these awards. Then to find out they only serve brisket from "time to time". So whatever and whoever said Railhead is good I'm seriously judging what you really like.
So I tried a chopped beef sandwhich. Actually, I've never heard of such a thing. Besides the obvious, what is "chopped beef" and what cut of meat is used to do this and what is the process? Whatever it was it was tender I will give them that but again no flavor or spices and most of all no smoke.
There is one independant place called Big Barn in North Richland Hills, TX which I mentioned has real pits and talked to a guy I know that has been there and says is great. I also always wanted to try this chain bbq place called Red Hot and Blue. Which has draft beer and not just Coors light which is a plus in my book. _________________ Old Country model: flagstone - vertical offset
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k.a.m. BBQ Super All Star

Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 21209 Location: Southeast Texas.
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Posted: Tue Feb 22 11 9:13 pm Post subject: Re: Fort Worth - Went to another wanna be bbq restaurant in |
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| BriGreentea wrote: | So I tried a chopped beef sandwhich. Actually, I've never heard of such a thing. Besides the obvious, what is "chopped beef" and what cut of meat is used to do this and what is the process? Whatever it was it was tender I will give them that but again no flavor or spices and most of all no smoke.
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Chopped or chipped beef is normally created from shoulder clods. They are quite tasty, basically a big chuck roast. they are also cooked hot and fast in most BBQ joints unlike a brisket which is normally done low and slow. With the correct sauce and seasonings in the mix they are a fantastic sandwich. _________________ Always remember slow and steady wins the race.
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Jarhead BBQ All Star

Joined: 10 Oct 2009 Posts: 7317 Location: Marionville, Home of the White Squirrels, Missouri
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Posted: Tue Feb 22 11 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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Like KAM said, great flavor. Most clods run ~20# each. I cut them into quarters of ~5# and smoke at 225-250 til 195 internal temp. Foil, rest, pull and rough chop. Toss with sauce and serve. Ya don't know what you're missin'. _________________ Gunny 3073/4044/8411
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BriGreentea BBQ Pro

Joined: 20 May 2010 Posts: 579 Location: FORT WORTH, TX
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Posted: Wed Feb 23 11 12:57 am Post subject: |
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So it's just chuck roast smoked to a high temp? It was good...but as I said had no flavor. So that's odd...it looked like pulled pork but tasted like beef which is great because I'm not a huge fan of pulled pork.
I have to try this on my UDS! Thanks for the info. _________________ Old Country model: flagstone - vertical offset
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ckone BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 22 Oct 2009 Posts: 2205 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Wed Feb 23 11 3:39 am Post subject: |
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Another take on chopped beef: You take the brisket that did not sell yesterday, and heat it up in some sauce and there you have it. _________________ 22.5 Weber Kettle
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Punky Newbie
Joined: 24 Feb 2009 Posts: 61 Location: Buena Vista, CO
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Posted: Fri Feb 25 11 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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We were in Fort Worth this past weekend to see our new grandson and tried a couple bbq restaurants there. We went to the Sonny Bryants located in a strip mall north on Interstate 35W, close to Cabelas. It was OK, brisket and ribs were decent wife had chopped chicken sand which wasn't very good at all. Onion rings looked huge and aweseom, but actually didn't have much flavor. Nice atmoshpere and condiment bar. I think their original location is in Dallas somewhere, have heard that it is better. Then we went to Angelo's on White Settlement road. Very good Q', old school Texas style. Walk up to the counter and tell them what you want, they cut it for you right there and away you go. Basic sides and drinks, rustic atmosphere with lots of animal mounts and Texas decor. We had the brisket, turkey breast, and both types of sausage, I thought they were all very good. Both places had classic thinner Texas style sauce, basic but good. I would be a regular at Angelo's if I lived there. _________________ Southern Pride SLR350
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Basset Hound BBQ Fan

Joined: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 213 Location: D/FW
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Posted: Mon Feb 28 11 2:33 am Post subject: |
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I feel your pain on BBQ in Ft. Worth. When I have out of town guests they always want to eat Tex-Mex and bbq. Tex-Mex is easy but BBQ is another story. We like Wood Creek in Springtown and the owners son opened a location next to Ridgmar mall in Ft. Worth. (On a side note, the Pho place next door is pretty good.) We have not been to that location but the location in Springtown has pretty good brisket. We have tried Up In Smoke in Keller and walked away thinking it was just ok. Far from great but a very neat ambiance. I seem to end up taking people to Risky's, ordering the smoked baloney and cheese app, and wishing for something better.
I am surprised you haven't seen chopped beef on the menu of restaurants. I thought that was a staple here as a way to use up the points from briskets.
B.H. _________________ "Ribs. I had ribs for lunch, that's why I'm doing this." - Ron Burgundy
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Harry Nutczak BBQ All Star

Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7761 Location: The Northwoods
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Posted: Mon Feb 28 11 6:19 am Post subject: |
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| ckone wrote: | | Another take on chopped beef: You take the brisket that did not sell yesterday, and heat it up in some sauce and there you have it. |
In the summer, I do chopped brisket sammies once a week or so for that very reason, typically point, cooked to shred, then chopped.
But! Now I got people requesting the point exclusively since I turned a few select customers on to how juicy and tender the point is. _________________ Just remember that the toes you may step on during your climb to the top will also be attached to the a$$es you'll be forced to kiss on your way back down! |
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Wreckless BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 14 May 2009 Posts: 1849 Location: New Braunfels, TX
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Posted: Wed Mar 02 11 3:06 pm Post subject: Re: Fort Worth - Went to another wanna be bbq restaurant in |
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| BriGreentea wrote: | Went to another wanna be bbq restaurant in Texas that was far from it. Again, another place that tasted decent but no flavor, no smoke flavor, no bbq flavor....no nothing. So I'm curious....what does most of these places cook with? Ovens? I don't get it. I actually saw a place around here driving by in the corner that was a bbq restaurant and actually saw in the back a patio type area that had real smokers because I could see them. I know having these type of cookers in a kitchen would require seriously good ventilation so monoxide doesn't seep into the whole place but still.
I mean, this place I wanted to try is always in a local add in Fort Worth and first of all they lied...they did not have brisket which is fine because I could kick thier arss with mine but said they had all these awards. Then to find out they only serve brisket from "time to time". So whatever and whoever said Railhead is good I'm seriously judging what you really like.
So I tried a chopped beef sandwhich. Actually, I've never heard of such a thing. Besides the obvious, what is "chopped beef" and what cut of meat is used to do this and what is the process? Whatever it was it was tender I will give them that but again no flavor or spices and most of all no smoke.
There is one independant place called Big Barn in North Richland Hills, TX which I mentioned has real pits and talked to a guy I know that has been there and says is great. I also always wanted to try this chain bbq place called Red Hot and Blue. Which has draft beer and not just Coors light which is a plus in my book. |
Red Hot and Blue on Macarthur in irving has a great rub on their ribs. _________________
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edub Newbie
Joined: 06 May 2010 Posts: 65 Location: Rio Vista, TX
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Posted: Wed Mar 02 11 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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Judging by your title I have tough time believing this is not schtick or some kinda level, or you're new to Texas. Saying you've never heard of a chopped beef sandwich leads me to believe you are new to the area. It is the eqivalent of the pulled pork sandwich in other BBQ regions.
You are right however about the lack of good or even decent Q in dfw, and yes most are chains and use commercial gas powered ovens with smoke flavor. Texas BBQ does not get it's reputation from north Texas, it comes from central Texas, so for the most part you are sol on north Texas and should rely on your own BBQ.
Red hot & blue is Memphis style BBQ so you may like it.
The closest thing I've found to good "Texas style BBQ" in dfw is, oh wait I haven't in 38 years, I head south for good q. |
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Wreckless BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 14 May 2009 Posts: 1849 Location: New Braunfels, TX
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Posted: Wed Mar 02 11 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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| edub wrote: | Texas BBQ does not get it's reputation from north Texas, it comes from central Texas, so for the most part you are sol on north Texas and should rely on your own BBQ.
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Just as bad in my book, breakfast tacos availability ends just south of Waco I asked my new work associates in Irving what time does the taco lady show up and they were ready to call up the men in the white coats. They offered me some bagels instead. _________________
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ckone BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 22 Oct 2009 Posts: 2205 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Thu Mar 03 11 1:10 am Post subject: |
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| Wreckless wrote: | breakfast tacos availability ends just south of Waco |
you ment north right? _________________ 22.5 Weber Kettle
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halftimer Newbie
Joined: 02 Jan 2011 Posts: 85 Location: IRVING TEXAS
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Posted: Thu Mar 03 11 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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| breakfast taco lady shows up at my place on irving blvd around 9-930 haven't got sick yet and don't have as many stray dogs and cats around anymore |
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feldon30 BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 01 Dec 2009 Posts: 1448 Location: Back in Houston!
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Posted: Fri Mar 04 11 9:51 am Post subject: |
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Breakfast Tacos are prevalent in Houston. Just sayin'.
By the way, the flour tortillas here are so bad I taught myself how to make them. Flour, pork lard, salt, baking powder, and hot water. They are to die for. We made 35 of them last night along with grilled chicken fajitas. Never mind it's about 3 degrees outside.  _________________ 22" WSM
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Wreckless BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 14 May 2009 Posts: 1849 Location: New Braunfels, TX
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Posted: Fri Mar 04 11 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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| halftimer wrote: | | haven't got sick yet and don't have as many stray dogs and cats around anymore |
Well sure. Breakfast tacos....Tortas in Baja....you don't ask whats in them, you just eat them. Works well that way.  _________________
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Poppa's PTL Club BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Posts: 1561 Location: Lawrenceville, GA
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Posted: Fri Apr 08 11 12:01 pm Post subject: Re: Fort Worth - Went to another wanna be bbq restaurant in |
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| BriGreentea wrote: | | another place that tasted decent but no flavor, no smoke flavor, no bbq flavor....no nothing. |
Forgive me if this comes across as snarky, but for the life of me, I can't figure out what you mean by this. How can something taste decent but have no flavor? Do you mean that it was cooked correctly (tender, etc) but not seasoned well enough? _________________ I likes to eat 'da pig!
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Bark Newbie

Joined: 15 Sep 2010 Posts: 28 Location: Dallas, TX
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Posted: Sun Apr 10 11 2:24 am Post subject: |
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If you want BBQ in Tarrant County, head to North Main BBQ in Euless. They are only open Friday to Sunday but it is great. $12 for AYCE. Really nice smoke flavor and a great rub.
Railhead is not very good for me either. Still looking for good FTW que. _________________ Bite the Bark, the Bark has Bite
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Shotgun Petes BBQ Super Fan

Joined: 02 Jan 2010 Posts: 439 Location: Columbia, MO
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Posted: Sun Apr 10 11 4:44 am Post subject: |
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I had food at Red Hot & Blue in Joplin MO once. It was good from what I remember, but what REALLY stands out in my memory is thier Red Beans & Rice dish! I know that's not BBQ, but wow it was sooo good! I was raised on the Gulf Coast and Red Beans & Rice is a very popular dish down there.
If you go to Red Hot & Blue get some BBQ, but you MUST have the red beans & rice if they still have it on thier menu!
Pour a few drops of Tobasco sauce on it, grab a beer and eat!  _________________ Reverse flow smoker made by my dad "Shotgun Pete" Peters over 30 years ago!
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SoTexSkinny Newbie
Joined: 25 Mar 2011 Posts: 30 Location: Helotes, TX
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Posted: Fri Apr 29 11 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| edub wrote: | Texas BBQ does not get it's reputation from north Texas, it comes from central Texas, so for the most part you are sol on north Texas and should rely on your own BBQ.
The closest thing I've found to good "Texas style BBQ" in dfw is, oh wait I haven't in 38 years, I head south for good q. |
+1 and I thank God every day that I'm right smack in the middle of it!!!! Real Texas barbecue comes from the Hill Country and the area southeast of that. Anything else just isn't the same. Texas is a big place- "The sun is rise, the sun is set. And here I am in Texas yet!" _________________ If yer lookin', it ain't cookin'! |
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Pinkelephant BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 19 Nov 2010 Posts: 1291 Location: Mode, IL
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Posted: Sun Jun 19 11 5:02 am Post subject: |
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in the 80's, we had a saying in Houston about Dallas/Fort Worth. It's a good place to get to Texas from but your not quite there yet...
 _________________ It's all about the smoke!
Allen
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