Evolution Tools

Coz · Posted: Wed Dec 21 11 11:20 pm Post subject: Evolution Tools

For those of you who have the Evolution cold saws we have discussed a few times.I bought the mid range one and have sent it back 2 times for the blade not being square to the base and the backstop not pivoting to get a 45 degree without having to take it apart.The first trip they did nothing and sent it back. The second time they got the squareness to about .045 or a fuzz more ( this is on a 90 degree cut on a 2 " tube) They put a new backstop assembly on and that is the same as the first one. Just wondering if any one else has or had these issues .For the money I think it should be better then it is.
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k.a.m. · Posted: Wed Dec 21 11 11:58 pm Post subject:

Coz, have you checked the blade to the fence with a speed square? On my Milwaukee I never rely on the marks depending on how I look at them the degree could easily be off .045. Also if your blade is dull or you force the cut the piece or blade will drift. When I set my fence I rely on my speed square but if I am off a little on the fit up I use my square or speed square and tack it in place using them as guides.
I hope this helps. Smile

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Coz · Posted: Thu Dec 22 11 1:04 am Post subject:

KAM, the fence to the blade is not the issue.Its the blade to the base as in the downward cut top to bottom is the issue.It was almost an 1/8 inch on a 2" tube. The fence issue is it wont pivot without taking one of the bolts out as the casting isnt machined correctly or the base isnt drilled correct for the arc of the fence to pivot the way it should.
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k.a.m. · Posted: Thu Dec 22 11 1:12 am Post subject:

Coz, I am guessing you have set a speed square on the base and the blade is not square at this time? I know as said before that if I push my blade especially when its dulling it will drift out and cause my vertical cut to be off some.
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erniesshop · Posted: Thu Dec 22 11 1:51 am Post subject: Chop Saw

Coz....I am on my 2nd Blade now , and like KAM...I always use a speed square when I am setting up for my cut's...

I have not had the problems you are having.....
Damn , I feel bad !!!

Coz · Posted: Thu Dec 22 11 2:15 am Post subject:

I am using a machinist square to check the blade vs the base. My salesman at Airgas is as POed at those folks as I am. I am most of the way finished building the cooker I bought this saw to build and havent cut more then 4 pieces of the cooker with it.I have been running over to a friends place do do my sawing.
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tanglediver · Posted: Thu Dec 22 11 6:56 am Post subject:

Bum deal.
Likewise, I put a square against my Milwaukee, and especially with any abrasive saw, which seems to work out well enough. Makita is another brand that has earned a good reputation. {imho}
http://www.toolup.com/makita_lc1230_metal-cutting-saw-dry-cut.aspx
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Coz · Posted: Sun Jan 08 12 2:36 am Post subject:

Well the saw goes back for the third time this coming week.They replaced the fence assy but must have never tried it as the fence will not pivot without taking one of the bolts out,so much for quick adjusting angles. The up and down squareness issue has been improved but still out more then I like. I think my contact at aAirgas is madder then I am with them.
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erniesshop · Posted: Sun Jan 08 12 2:43 am Post subject:

I am sure glad that Airgas is standing up for you !

TheNorwegian · Joined: 04 Apr 2012 Posts: 18 Location: Western Washington

I've got the rage 3 compound miter saw. I'm still on my first blade. I've built a shop, a fence, a deck, a wood shed, a welding table, a trailer mover, rebuilt a trailer, Deck rails, bird houses, weight racks, and several other projects with it. I've found that using the supplied marks wont do you any help. you've got to use the speed square and or angle finder every time you move it. This is for both the vertical and horizontal directions. I had no issues with it not being able to get to the 45*. I also find that moving quickly, or forcing the blade through will cause it to flex in both wood or metal. I let the saw do the work. part of the reason why I've managed to maintain 1 blade through all those projects.
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k.a.m. · Posted: Thu Apr 12 12 11:09 pm Post subject:

I use Dewalt blades on my Milwaukee. If I am cutting mainly 1/4" thick stock I get about 150 cuts before I need the blade sharpened. I have three blades which I rotate to the sharpener so I am never without a sharp blade.
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Coz · Posted: Fri Apr 13 12 1:50 am Post subject:

The saw has been back for a while .All I did was look to make sure the blade was square to the bed and the fence pivoted for the angles. I think they finally actually looked at what I was saying and fixed it . I had marked the part I questioned and it was replaced this time. I think in the three or so trips down and back it has had most everything replaced .Might try it this weekend . I need to finish the actual racks I am going to use in the new clone and get some work done on the Santa Maria grill before the new trailer gets here and I have to get that ready for june comps. I have a compound miter saw I have used for years on aluminum and have never had one issue so this was a disappointing purchase for me.I know a lot of folks are not happy with Airgas lately but if it hadnt been for our local guy there I am sure I would be in jail in Iowa for thumping some one with this saw.
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spectrascott · Joined: 27 Mar 2012 Posts: 9 Location: The Great Northwest

When you say cold saw does yours use water to cool the blade? I searched out Evolution and only found ones that look like a chop saw to me. Being from one side of the country to the other you call them one thing I call them another Laughing

Just asking as I have a cold saw (to me) and it uses water and the blade only rotates at about 200 RPMs. The saw weighs about 500 lbs and stands about 5 feet tall.

k.a.m. · Posted: Fri Apr 20 12 10:20 am Post subject:

spectrascott · Joined: 27 Mar 2012 Posts: 9 Location: The Great Northwest