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Wreckless
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14 12 11:28 am    Post subject: Santa Maria...It's a grill! Reply with quote

A fellow stops by Wrecklessville..." Can you build me a Santa Maria style grill?" Wreckless replies "Well...Sure! No problem". Nevermind the fact that the furthest I have ventured into that world was a few peeks at "ggarners" fine build and a handful of other pics. I opened the door for Murphy and his strange set of laws with the thought "How hard can it be?" Rolling Eyes
The grill would be 4' x 3' with 16" sides. For the legs and tie in bracing underneath, 1 1/2' x 1/8" square tubing was used. The legs were going to attach to the bottom of the 1/4" plate. While out purchasing the tubing, I gave a buzz to k.a.m. - da man, mostly for kicks and a second opinion on the tubing size. "What size tubing are you using for the sub-frame?" Shocked Confused " he asks. "I'm not" I replied. "Ok, good luck with that" he says. The legs would now be tied into a subframe. I was worried about twist over time, not anymore.
The subframe and legs...


a 2" drain, steel casters mounted to 1/4" plate foot pads

to be continued...
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14 12 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like Mike say's "sometimes you gotta ignore Kevin"
But most of the time not. Razz Very Happy Laughing
Looking good my Friend I cant wait to see the outcome say in about 30 min. or so or are you going to break your own record today. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14 12 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wreckless, looks good, very solid. Very Happy
"How hard can it be?"...you should know better than to say that. Even thinking that makes a Murphy visit mandatory. Shocked
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14 12 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

k.a.m. wrote:
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Like Mike say's "sometimes you gotta ignore Kevin" But most of the time not. Razz Very Happy Laughing


Appears like someone's ego might be at a tad higher level today than normal, must be finished with all the "KP" duty at home and feeling good about it. Laughing


Mike, I look forward to this 30 minute build bro. I am really glad that you tackled the SM waters before I did, so nice of you to work out the bugs and details to make my upcoming build easier Wink Thanks Bro!! Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14 12 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking good just like troy i have one of these to do also cant wait to see it finished
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15 12 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kevin... Laughing Laughing it goes just like that...thanks
GF...thanks, yeah, I know, I don't need to be inviting Murphy, I believe he has his own key to the place
Troy...glad to do it. It should free up time for some cool TrailerBuilder spin on yours
Logtrucker...thanks, I'm expecting some cool sh!t on yours as well
To backtrack just a bit, I used an open joint design for the sub frame and bracing frame, sometimes I listen to kevin. I had planned on attaching the bracing frame after the legs were in place, instead, this design kept the legs from pulling out of square.


The sides in place

This being a 5 sided cube (sans the 6'th side) I did not want anything pulling the open side. A 1 1/2" x 1/4" flat frame was put in place while still in the spot tack stage of the game.

The entire build to this point was welded out, the side joints and top frame were ground smooth for a seamless effect, typical Wreckless style. With it all welded out, the uprights could now go into place without the afore mentioned pulling, the box was strong and sound. 2" x 1" x 3/16" c-channel was used for the uprights. The uprights were notched and plates to hold the crank mecho were welded in

To be continued...
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15 12 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So how long did it take for the light bulb Idea to go off in your head on the open joint design Wink Laughing

Seriously Mike, that is an awesome build bro, A great job as always Very Happy One question I do have though, what is your cooking grate height? Shocked Razz Wink Laughing I only ask because Im gathering information for when I start mine Rolling Eyes Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16 12 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TrailerBuilder wrote:
So how long did it take for the light bulb Idea to go off in your head on the open joint design Wink Laughing

As soon as it was mentioned, i knew it was the way to go. No bitching, no whining, didn't even try to weasel out of it. it worked good

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Seriously Mike, that is an awesome build bro, A great job as always Very Happy One question I do have though, what is your cooking grate height? Shocked Razz Wink Laughing I only ask because Im gathering information for when I start mine Rolling Eyes Laughing Laughing Laughing

Troy, thanks dude. The grate height is...um...how you say...adjustable? Rolling Eyes I have no idea what you are asking Wink Laughing The top frame height for reference tho is 37.000" Shocked Just a number I came up with that I almost always use for grills. Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16 12 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the uprights in place, time to start figuring the crank mechanism. I had considered drilling and pinning the cable attachment to the crank shaft much like ggarners fine build ( which was indeed the inspiration and standard for this build) and letting it roll up along the shaft. The spacing, timing, etc. looked like more than I wanted to do to get it all in sync. I went with a straight pull design via some store bought pulleys mounted to a 5/8" CR crankshaft. To guide the crankshaft smoothly, I purchased some off the shelf sleeves / collars with set screws.
The pulleys attached and the inside sleeves welded in place

Next step on the list was attaching the cable to the pulleys. I was considering a drill hole in the pulley with a crimp on the end. While I was pondering and figuring the point of attachment to the pulleys, my tool and die maker bud stopped by. He had other ideas. The first order of business was to spot and countersink the shaft for set screw pockets to eliminate any slippage.

Too be continued...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16 12 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not satisfied with the drill hole and crimp, the pulleys were mounted on a 30 degree and a thru hole was drilled, passing thru just at the inside radius of the pulley and just above the shaft bore. The pulley came with a 1/4-20 set screw on one side with an identical blank pocket located on the 180 degree side. We used the blank pocket for the thru hole. The top side of the pocket was drilled and tapped for an additional 1/4-20 set screw. The 1/16" SS cable passes thru the 1/4" set screw hole and locks down for a nice secure attachment.

To be continued...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17 12 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The finished pulley

The cooking grate was notched for clearance and a 7" leftover piece of 1 1/2" tubing was welded to the grate as a guide thru the c-channel. Cable attachment on the grate...I needed a straight pull design. A loop thru the tubing unprotected would eat the the SS cable in short order. A block was machined for each side, the cable passes thru and is restrained by a 1/4-20 set screw

A new $10 ratchet strap was hacked for theratchet gear for the crank mecho, welded to the crank and a locking lever was raided from a old fubar comealong


Fire grate fabbed using 1/4" x 1 1/2" flat bar and 1/2" rebar on 1/2" centers for either charcoal or splits. Instead of floating a grate suspended on side rails, I figured some sag over time, legs were welded to the 4 corners and one leg in the middle, 1/8" shorter than the outside legs for an inward bow for whatever bow developed over time.


Inlet damper on the front for draft

Steel casters

Painted Rusto Satin Black


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17 12 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike, very nice work my Friend. Very Happy You turned out an awesome grill right there. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17 12 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wreckless, The grill looks great. Very Happy
Nice work on the crank setup and cable, I'm guessing that could be a real PITA.
I'm sure the new owner is gonna be real happy with it.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17 12 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GF...Thank you for the kind comments, approval here from my fellow ringers means a lot. Forgot to mention earlier...ggarner...Thanks for posting your build. I used more than one idea to make this work, Hope you don't mind. I posted mine in keeping it going. Thanks k.a.m. for the support, nothing better than some expert know-how when the fabbers block rears it's head. And...Thanks to my tool and die maker bud Jimbo, that was some pretty cool sh!t you thought up. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17 12 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike, that thing is beyond kick a$$! Another outstanding job my friend. Ive had a few different ideas in my head of my future build and you just added a ton more. Very nicely done man Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17 12 3:13 pm    Post subject: Grill Reply with quote

Wreckless the grill came out looking great
One of the best ones I have seen.
What is that big thing in your shop on the stands Smile

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17 12 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love it!

If you built one of those for Seattle you'd have to build in a roof to keep the rain out. Then you could grill in the rain!

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17 12 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man, that is a sweet looking grill! You did it again.
More pictures and close ups please Very Happy. Bookmarked and ready to copy.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18 12 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Way to go that turned out awesome i will tell you up front i am going to use some of your ideas great job as usual Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18 12 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice looking grill. The mechanicals look like they will work smooth and hold up for a long time.

You don't waste much time do you? What was that, three days to build?
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