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help! insulated firebox- how to warm logs?

 
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kclineman
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14 13 9:33 am    Post subject: help! insulated firebox- how to warm logs? Reply with quote

Hey guys. I'm in the process of insulating my firebox and adding a stoker to my trailer rig. Got to thinking about it not sure how I'm going to warm my splits. Anyone got any tips or tricks to this problem?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14 13 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kclineman, set them off to the side in your firebox.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14 13 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought about that l however I think it'll be about impossible to keep them out of the coal bed once it gets going nicely. What I was thinking might work would be to put them down in in the space below my rack where my ash falls. When I built the firebox I was expecting a whole lot more ash out of a 16 hour cook than I get so I have a pretty good space under the rack.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14 13 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kclineman, it is worth a shot and will probably work if you can keep them from igniting.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14 13 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the help k.a.m. ill play with it when I get these mods done.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14 13 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Warm your logs? I gotta ask, why?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15 13 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you say you are insulating your firebox, what are you using to do that? I ask as I insulated mine and the outside of the firebox still gets pretty hot, to hot to touch.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15 13 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kozmic wrote:
Warm your logs? I gotta ask, why?

For a faster ignition and cleaner burn. Some do it others do not it is a preference thing. Personally I like the results of pre-heating my splits.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15 13 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was wondering if that was the secret to preventing the thick cold smoke from throwing sticks in when the fire is too cold.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15 13 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not a secret... it's just that there are lots of people that don't know about it! Wink Laughing Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15 13 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

garyeng wrote:
When you say you are insulating your firebox, what are you using to do that? I ask as I insulated mine and the outside of the firebox still gets pretty hot, to hot to touch.

Gary


I am using an industrial thermal ceramic insulation. Unsure of the brand or product name. I am getting it through and industrial insulation supplier local to kansas city. It should cut my external firebox temps in half or better. I expect it will still be pretty warm but a lot better than it is now.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17 13 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ask as I said my firebox still gets pretty warm and I used 1" of mineral wool insulation with mine. If you have not done so, I would also add braces down the side centers between the inner and outer skins of your firebox and weld them both to it. I did not do that with mine in the beginning and the thermal difference between the skins caused the outside skin to bow. I have sense had to remove the outside skin, install the braces and them weld the skin back on to include plug welding the outer skin to the braces down the center of the firebox sides and the top.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19 13 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just an update. Got my firebox insulated and my stoker installed. What a difference these two mods made. I ean 20lbs of quality lump coal and pecan splits ran 8 hours with no temp variation. Just had to throw a split on every now and then. Anyone out there looking to build a pit I would highly encourage you to insulate your firebox.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19 13 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ours is warm enough on the outside to warm the logs. We used 2" of mineral wool. The hottest spot is right above the door.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25 13 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kclineman wrote:
Just an update. Got my firebox insulated and my stoker installed. What a difference these two mods made. I ean 20lbs of quality lump coal and pecan splits ran 8 hours with no temp variation. Just had to throw a split on every now and then. Anyone out there looking to build a pit I would highly encourage you to insulate your firebox.


Any Pics on how you insulated your firebox? I'm looking for ideas on mines. Building firebox from scratch.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25 13 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is ours. We insulated the sides. Front & back are 1/2" plate steel.








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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25 13 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow thats sweet!! Thanx Wink
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