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Oscarito
Joined: 26 May 2012 Posts: 4
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Posted: May 27 2012 Post subject: Cutting door in pipe for smoker |
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Hey everyone. New guy here. Just finished my first custom smoker. 20" pipe 1/4" wall. One question, when cutting the door to the pipe, the door expanded, so now it doesn't close as tight. Any tips on how to keep that from happening? Stitch cut?
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k.a.m. BBQ Mega Star

Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 26020 Location: Southeast Texas.
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Posted: May 27 2012 Post subject: |
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Welcome to the ring Oscarito, looking forward to seeing some pics of your cooks.
Let me first say it really does not matter what you use to cut with or the method to do it if the pipe or vessel is sprung in the location of your door cut the metal will relieve itself when you cut it.
I do prefer to take precautions when making a door cut, I leave about 1" at all four corners and 12-3-6-9 then let the door cool completely this does work from time to time. I always just prepare myself for a door tweaking session once the door is back on.
Here are some pics that may help.
In this pic you can see the portions left to cool.
In this pic I have cleaned up the door and repositioned it for straps and hinges, I prefer to lay out my doors this way so I can set it in the hole where I want it. If you add hinges before the cuts the door sometimes drops and that is a pita to recover from.
 _________________ Always remember slow and steady wins the race.
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Oscarito
Joined: 26 May 2012 Posts: 4
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Posted: Jun 03 2012 Post subject: |
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thanks k.a.m
yeah, next time i'll probably leave the corners for last.
here's some pics.
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cajun Newbie
Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Posts: 46 Location: Kolin, Louisiana
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Posted: May 27 2013 Post subject: Heavy ? |
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That thing looks awful heavy to move it around, maybe some bigger wheels and some swivel wheels on the front. Or you better have a belly full of Pork Butt before trying to move it. Anyway that is one good looking pit, and I bet when it gets hot it will be hot for a long time..Great job........ |
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famous david
Joined: 07 Dec 2013 Posts: 23 Location: Ne Ks
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Posted: Dec 08 2013 Post subject: |
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Nice cooker, nice shop,[/b] |
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DUMMY QUE
Joined: 12 Aug 2013 Posts: 23 Location: stoutsville Ohio
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Posted: Dec 18 2013 Post subject: new cooker |
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SWEET NICE JOB _________________ MEAT,FIRE,SHARP KNIFES,LIBATIONS ON THIS SIDE OF THE DIRT LIFE IS GOOD |
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whiskers57 Newbie
Joined: 13 Dec 2013 Posts: 54 Location: South centeral Ky.
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Posted: Dec 23 2013 Post subject: |
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I'm working my first build, for a friend and what I did on the door cutout is made the top cut all the way across, and down each side a couple of inches. then I laid down the seal strap, and hinges. Then I cut the sides all the way to the bottom and across a couple of inches, and laid down the side seal straps. Then the bottom. I did all the door cuts with a cutoff wheel. It worked out good. _________________ If Ya Can't EAT IT, SHOOT IT, S***W IT, OR RIDE IT, IT AIN'T WORTH WASTING A WHOLE LOT OF TIME ON! |
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Wreckless BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 15 May 2009 Posts: 2292 Location: New Braunfels, TX
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Posted: Dec 24 2013 Post subject: |
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k.a.m.'s method works well. There are a few tricks to getting her back in shape though. A chain and bottle neck jack, a piece of heavy angle and a good door slam or two, grind the offending corner down a bit, grinding the bottom cooker opening down to split the difference of the pull. If you decide to fix the door, post some close up pics of the pulled area and some good advice will surely follow on how to procede if wanted. |
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whiskers57 Newbie
Joined: 13 Dec 2013 Posts: 54 Location: South centeral Ky.
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Posted: Dec 25 2013 Post subject: |
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If you had the door completely off the tank, could you use a hi-lift/handy-man jack to put the curve back into the door, has anyone tried this? Just thinking it might be easier. _________________ If Ya Can't EAT IT, SHOOT IT, S***W IT, OR RIDE IT, IT AIN'T WORTH WASTING A WHOLE LOT OF TIME ON! |
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Dand78 Newbie
Joined: 15 May 2012 Posts: 25 Location: Central Illinois
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Posted: Dec 26 2013 Post subject: |
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whiskers57 wrote: | If you had the door completely off the tank, could you use a hi-lift/handy-man jack to put the curve back into the door, has anyone tried this? Just thinking it might be easier. |
That would work. Just measure before and after each bend attempt so you don't over do it. Those jacks are good for everything, even pinching fingers.
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k.a.m. BBQ Mega Star

Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 26020 Location: Southeast Texas.
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Posted: Dec 26 2013 Post subject: |
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A high lift will work I prefer a hydraulic bottle jack or my porta power jack it is easier to maneuver around. _________________ Always remember slow and steady wins the race.
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abaralnek
Joined: 26 Aug 2012 Posts: 7
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The last couple of builds I did were reverse flows.I ended up cutting 1 end bell off the tank and then welded the BP plate in before I even touched the door. I also bought a milwaukee metal cutting saw and have been using it to cut all my metal and doors, best investment I've made. Using the saw the cuts stay cool to the touch and I haven't had to straighten a door since |
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Smokin Mike BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 02 Dec 2008 Posts: 3167 Location: Winston-Salem, NC
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Posted: Jan 14 2014 Post subject: |
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abaralnek wrote: | I also bought a milwaukee metal cutting saw and have been using it to cut all my metal and doors, best investment I've made. Using the saw the cuts stay cool to the touch and I haven't had to straighten a door since |
abaralnek, Are you making a plunge cut with that saw? |
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abaralnek
Joined: 26 Aug 2012 Posts: 7
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Posted: Jan 16 2014 Post subject: |
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i am..seems to work great!! |
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k.a.m. BBQ Mega Star

Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 26020 Location: Southeast Texas.
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Posted: Jan 16 2014 Post subject: |
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I would love to have one for cutting sheet metal and almost bought one a while back until I saw some doors cut with one and they had sprung. I have also seen guys beat themselves to death with sawzaws only to have doors spring. These cookers convinced me that it really doesn't matter what you use when cutting the door if the tank or pipe is stressed when you make the cut you relieve it. Some folks get lucky some don't. I have made continuous cuts on doors with my O/A with minimal to no springing at all.
One build here on the ring took off his bell like I did and mentioned earlier by abaralnek put his plate in and was happy that no warping had occurred He then cut his doors with said sawzall, with our help and days of tweaking he fixed the doors. _________________ Always remember slow and steady wins the race.
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Smokin Mike BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 02 Dec 2008 Posts: 3167 Location: Winston-Salem, NC
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Posted: Jan 16 2014 Post subject: |
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Smokin Mike wrote: | abaralnek, Are you making a plunge cut with that saw? |
abaralnek wrote: | i am..seems to work great!! |
Cool! I just haven't have the courage, faith, or gonads to attempt that.
Kevin, I'm surprised that as much metal work as you do, you don't have a cold saw. |
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k.a.m. BBQ Mega Star

Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 26020 Location: Southeast Texas.
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Posted: Jan 16 2014 Post subject: |
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Smokin Mike wrote: | Smokin Mike wrote: | abaralnek, Are you making a plunge cut with that saw? |
abaralnek wrote: | i am..seems to work great!! |
Cool! I just haven't have the courage, faith, or gonads to attempt that.
Kevin, I'm surprised that as much metal work as you do, you don't have a cold saw. |
Never really needed one. I look at it much like a plasma cutter. Yes it would be nice to own one but my cuts rival any free hand plasma I have seen. I do have a Milwaukee cold cut chop saw that gets a work out. They call it cold cut but believe me the steel gets hot enough to let you know it. _________________ Always remember slow and steady wins the race.
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Stainless Newbie
Joined: 24 Feb 2008 Posts: 66 Location: Fort Smith, AR
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Posted: Feb 11 2014 Post subject: |
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I know this isn't possible with all builds but for a lot of them. Has anyone ever tried pre-cutting the holes like k.a.m. and then gusseting the lid on each side with a shallow half moon? I know it would make the lid a little heavier but with 1/4".. who would notice. |
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