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whall
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10 17 2:19 pm    Post subject: Cooking grate question Reply with quote

I am starting a new, larger cooker that will have racks that are going to be around 3'x6' just a guesstimate.

I was wondering what size metal to use for the frames, I was thinking 1.5" square tube with 3 pieces spaced equally apart running from front to back (3' length). I will be using expanded metal to top them.

I want to keep them from sagging too much when they are loaded down with butts or a whole hog.

Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated, thanks
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10 17 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just gut feeling, haven’t done the math, but I think you’re closer to overkill than insufficient here. Ever think about splitting that into two and doing slide-outs?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10 17 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I left out several details of the build, the cooker is going to be a 3'x4'x6' rectangle reverse flow.

I am going to have two doors that swing out from the center so the entire rack can be slid out. I plan on having at least 4 racks with multipe slides to adjust the spacing up/down.

I have started on the build already, I have the main cooking chamber tacked together. I will put up some pics eventually Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10 17 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was just thinking that a 3x3 grate would be stronger than a 3x6 grate of the same construction: probably easier to handle too. You might not be able to use the slide-out with a whole hog on it like that, but that’s in a different league entirely as far as the structure needed to hold it when you slide it out.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11 17 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will have some tabs welded on the slides to keep the grates from tipping and falling out when they are pulled out for loading and unloading. I'm not worried about that part.

I'm more concerned with them sagging from the weight when loaded with a couple hundred pounds of meat.

i already have a cooker that I made with a 500 gallon propane tank that has smaller 3' racks. I am making the new one with multiple racks and the potential of cooking whole hogs, so I need the full length to make it possible.

Maybe someone will chime in that has a cooker with something similar. I might just make one as a prototype and see how it does when it is weighted down
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11 17 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use 1" x 1.5" tubing it is stronger than 1.5" x 1.5" when used in its vertical position.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11 17 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks k.a.m.

I thought I was somewhere in the ball park on size Laughing I just wanted to make sure before I went and bought enough steel for 4 or 5 racks
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11 17 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FWIW: I think round stock is much easier to clean than the rectangular frame.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11 17 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JohnH12 wrote:
FWIW: I think round stock is much easier to clean than the rectangular frame.

whall will be using expanded metal on top the rectangular frame for his cooking surface.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13 17 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JohnH12 wrote:
FWIW: I think round stock is much easier to clean than the rectangular frame.
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Thanks for the input JohnH12,

I have a steam pressure washer so cleaning really isnt really an issue.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19 17 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

k.a.m. wrote:
Use 1" x 1.5" tubing it is stronger than 1.5" x 1.5" when used in its vertical position.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19 17 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

whall wrote:
JohnH12 wrote:
FWIW: I think round stock is much easier to clean than the rectangular frame.
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Thanks for the input JohnH12,

I have a steam pressure washer so cleaning really isnt really an issue.


Interesting.
What make/model do you have? The only one that would fit my budget is the Wagner. The others are several thousand dollars.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20 17 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JohnH12 wrote:
whall wrote:
JohnH12 wrote:
FWIW: I think round stock is much easier to clean than the rectangular frame.
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Thanks for the input JohnH12,

I have a steam pressure washer so cleaning really isnt really an issue.


Interesting.
What make/model do you have? The only one that would fit my budget is the Wagner. The others are several thousand dollars.


Its an older Hotsie (I think thats how it is spelled) It has an electric motor for the pump and uses diesel/kerosene for the burner. Im not sure of the model number.

I have a buddy who mentioned he had one he wanted to sell, so I went to check it out. He said he would take $200 for it, I paid him quick before he changed his mind. Laughing

I had been wanting one for a while but they are, like you said, very expensive
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