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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20 09 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I vote for the O/A setup for atleast what my needs would be. Sure it would be nice to have a plasma laying around collecting dust until needed. Everything has a need when you need it .
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21 09 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok so now you have me searching O/A setups. Just a quick search at harbor frieght and found this.

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=98958

I am sure there are a bunch of different brands but for a begginer is it something worth while?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21 09 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

smokin ernie, I would give this one at Tractor Supply a hard look; It includes everthing you need to get started.

http://www.tractorsupply.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay_10551_10001_104758_-1______?rFlag=true&cFlag=1
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21 09 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BabyHuey wrote:
purplewg wrote:
Ok, I will throw my $.02 in here. I believe if a man can he should have the following in his toy collection;

Arc Welder
MIG Welder
O/A torch set
Plasma Cutter
Metal Chop Saw
7 inch hand grinder
4 1/2 inch hand grinder (actually two. one with cutoff wheel and one with grinder wheel)
Good heavy duty bench grinder
Heavy duty vice at least with 5 inch jaws
Air Compressor (vertical at least 5 HP)
Good steel welding table
Numerous clamps, vise grips, face shields, glasses, helmets, bubble gum and barbed wire.

And as far as O/A cutting, the boars head in this pic was cut with a torch not a Plasma.


purplewg, add a band saw, fork lift, hoist, bridgeport mill, drill press, cut off saw, paint gun, TV, suround sound system, and a good set of steel horses and you have taken a tour of my shop. Laughing with the exception of bubble gum! Razz and there is still a list of wants...... Very Happy



You guys are forgetting the most important item needed in the shop, its the fridge with ice cold beer. Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21 09 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would stay away from the Harbor Freight ones. I have a friend that bought theirs and I had to use it at his place one time. Junk, I might add.

Again Craigslist is a good place. You can find the gauges, torch, hose pretty reasonable many times. Look for "made in china" on the torch or gauges. If you see this, leave them there.

If you can find the gauges, hoses, and torch you can go buy tanks at the local air/gas supplier. Don't get the small bottles (I forget the sizes) or you will be upgrading them shortly to bigger ones I am sure.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21 09 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Early on, I was looking at a torch since one tool would cut and stick it back together, I was leaning to a Victor at our Airgas store. I hear this is a good solid one, is that true? (I think Harris was the alternative)
Not getting one any time soon, but curious since this has come up.
Oh, and I think the standard bottles are 125cf if I recall right? Is that right?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21 09 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have always had good luck with victor and don't use anything else. You can get parts and tips for them just about anywhere and they have good customer service.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21 09 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My O/A torch is a Victor also, its what I grew up using. i finally made my purchase today on the plasma cutter, should be here sometime next week. i went with the Longevity ForceCut LP 40D with the Pilot Arc. I'll probably start on the cooker next weekend.

Specifications:

Operating Voltage:
208/220vac 50/60HZ Input Single Phase 1PH
110/120vac 50/60HZ Input Single Phase 1PH
40amp cut draws 22.7A at 5KVA
31amp cut draws 17.6A at 3.8KVA
230V No Load Voltage, 100-115V Working Voltage

Cutting Specs:
3" Per minute @ 3/4" Steel (Severance Cut)
7" Per minute @ 1/2" Thick Steel
17" Per minute @ 3/8" Thick Steel

Pilot Arc Starting Technology and Contact Start:
Pilot arc starting technology is one of the most advanced starting technologies for plasma cutters. You will be able to start an arc in the air without every worrying about touching the work piece with the tip of the torch.

Power Specs:
Power Factor 0.93
100% Duty cycle (cut time) at 31amp cut
60% Duty cycle at 40amp cut setting

Air requirements: 50-75psi @ 3.5cfm
Internal High Speed Cooling Fan to Regulate Temperature
Has built in Thermal & Overload Protection

Weight: 25LBS (28LBS Boxed)
Dimensions: 15"Length X 9"High X 6"Wide

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21 09 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HillbillySmoker,
I think your going to like this one you've settled on. Mines the same w/o the pilot arc. I have no complaints, though my current projects are not as heavy as yours. I'd like to know how you fair with the heavier metal.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21 09 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If i get it before next friday ill be able to get started next weekend, ill post how well it does. im not 100% sure but i think you can buy the comsumables for that torch at harbor freight at about 1/4th the cost.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22 09 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine uses a torch thats in the same series as the ESAB and its compatible. (PT-xx) I'm not sure if thats true of the pilot arc torch...
I plan to bulk buy from Longevity...they have good prices on the kits. If you find a better source, pls do tell.
BTW...you may be covered, but it doesnt come with a plug. Best make that run ahead of time. Forgive me if you know this already.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22 09 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah they dont come with a plug because they dont know if the consumer is gonna use it on 110 or 220, so they just leave it off.

I was just looking at the 40 you have and the torch is different.

Got my tracking number, looks like it will be here Wednesday.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 22 09 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BabyHuey wrote:
I have always had good luck with victor and don't use anything else. You can get parts and tips for them just about anywhere and they have good customer service.


Not to just keep agreeing with Huey but, as far as an O/A set up. There is Victor and then there is everything else.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25 09 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks I will check out the victors. As of right now I do not have a garage to store the bottles. Is it safe to have this in the basement of the house? I am just renting the place and hopefully in a month or two the wife and I will be getting our own place. I am sure pushing for a garage, barn, shop setup somewhere other then working in the driveway now.

Thanks again everyone as always the ring comes through.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26 09 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hit the pawn shops, you would be surprised at the things you can find, i see victor torches for sale all the time. craigslist is a good source also.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26 09 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HillbillySmoker wrote:
If i get it before next friday ill be able to get started next weekend, ill post how well it does. im not 100% sure but i think you can buy the comsumables for that torch at harbor freight at about 1/4th the cost.


It hasn't come yet huh?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27 09 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I called home on my lunch break and it's there waiting for me. just need to run by the depot and get a plug for it. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy , its 110 or 220 so im gonna try it on 110 first because im doubled up on my range breaker in the garage for my mig. ill probably play around with it for a few days and start working on the smoker stand saturday morning.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27 09 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds good. Be sure and give us a detailed eval of the looks, quality, ease of operation and such....
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28 09 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I fired it up for a test cut this evening, decided to go ahead and put a 220 plug on it, cranked it up all the way and cut 1/4" easy. nice smooth cut. ill evaluate it some more later. I'm happy.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28 09 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hillbilly, I am glad it is working well for you. Very Happy I look forward to seeing it in action.
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