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GAUG3
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17 10 12:24 am    Post subject: *Pictures* First UDS Build Reply with quote

Well, I managed to find a 55 gallon steel drum that carried motor oil for $15. The guy said he would cut the top with his can opener, drain and and rinse it out. I plan to have a burn to get all the oil out.

Is it necessary to sand it down?


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17 10 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would burn it more than once.
You need to get the liner out, either by burning, grinding or sanding.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17 10 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There might not be a liner in one that held oil. I would prefer one that had oil/gas/anything else "bad" over one that had food in it and a tough liner.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17 10 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The guy said there is no liner. I wasn't sure if the grinding\sanding was necessary since it had motor oil in it. Looks like a few good burn outs will do the trick.

I'm just worried about the lid. He said the cut is nice an clean. I'm trying to figure out how to round it out so my Weber 22.5 lid can fit on it.

Or, could I just put a handle on the drum lid and use it?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17 10 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the barrel too big or too small for the lid?
You might run into a warpage prob with the old cut out. Don't know on that one, never done it before.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17 10 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure what it looks like. He already made the cut and I didn't ask how he did it. If it was on the top lid inside the ring (leaving the ring attached to the drum). Or, if it was the drum under the ring (leaving the ring on the lid) making a sharp edge on the drum. Does that make sense?

I plan to go over there today and see what it looks like. I plan on getting either way. For $15 why not.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17 10 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, Git-R-Done.
You can always pick up a cheapo at Big Lots for $29.00 instead of ruining a Weber.
http://www.biglots.com/Outdoorlife/item.aspx?cid=60&scid=217&iid=7351
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17 10 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jarhead wrote:
Yep, Git-R-Done.


Fo Sho! I just got off the phone with him. He said the ring is still on the drum. He said it cuts just like when you open a can of vegetables. I am about to head over and pick it up.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17 10 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well here it is.

With 22.5 Weber lid. Not a good fit.
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As you can see, it doesn't fit snug on one side.







The cut.







Now I need to find a lid. I saw the post on this at Big Lots. I may check it out.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17 10 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have a welder, put a ring of 1" flat bar on the inside. It will fit perfectly.
If not, do the pop-rivet thing.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17 10 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jarhead wrote:
If you have a welder, put a ring of 1" flat bar on the inside. It will fit perfectly.
If not, do the pop-rivet thing.


I don't have a welder. So I need look into the pop-rivet. I haven't searched on that here.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17 10 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might not find anything specific, but here's the poop: get a 6 foot piece of flat steel, 2" wide and 1/16th inch thick or thereabouts. Pick up a pop-rivet tool and a couple of dozen 1/8" diameter pop rivets for 1/8"-3/16" thick work (probably the shortest type) and a 1/8" drill bit for your electric drill.

Position the steel roughly 3/4" proud of the rim, then clamp the flat to the barrel rim as you form it to hug tight to the inside of the rim. Mark and trim the length so the ends butt, reclamp it to the barrel rim, drill and rivet your way around the barrel.

Alternatively, you could flatten out the rim of the kettle lid so it sits flat on the barrel rim, then use a pair of pliers to form a small lip in the lid rim so it won't slide off the barrel...

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17 10 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

day_trippr wrote:
You might not find anything specific, but here's the poop: get a 6 foot piece of flat steel, 2" wide and 1/16th inch thick or thereabouts. Pick up a pop-rivet tool and a couple of dozen 1/8" diameter pop rivets for 1/8"-3/16" thick work (probably the shortest type) and a 1/8" drill bit for your electric drill.

Position the steel roughly 3/4" proud of the rim, then clamp the flat to the barrel rim as you form it to hug tight to the inside of the rim. Mark and trim the length so the ends butt, reclamp it to the barrel rim, drill and rivet your way around the barrel.

Alternatively, you could flatten out the rim of the kettle lid so it sits flat on the barrel rim, then use a pair of pliers to form a small lip in the lid rim so it won't slide off the barrel...

Cheers


Is it along the same lines as this?



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17 10 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

day_trippr wrote:
You might not find anything specific, but here's the poop: get a 6 foot piece of flat steel, 2" wide and 1/16th inch thick or thereabouts. Pick up a pop-rivet tool and a couple of dozen 1/8" diameter pop rivets for 1/8"-3/16" thick work (probably the shortest type) and a 1/8" drill bit for your electric drill.

Position the steel roughly 3/4" proud of the rim, then clamp the flat to the barrel rim as you form it to hug tight to the inside of the rim. Mark and trim the length so the ends butt, reclamp it to the barrel rim, drill and rivet your way around the barrel.

Alternatively, you could flatten out the rim of the kettle lid so it sits flat on the barrel rim, then use a pair of pliers to form a small lip in the lid rim so it won't slide off the barrel...

Cheers


Is it along the same lines as this?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17 10 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GAUG3 wrote:
Is it along the same lines as this?



There ya go. Do that with pop rivets and you should be good to go! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17 10 11:27 pm    Post subject: Food Grate Postitions Reply with quote

I'm planning on having two food grates since I will be using a 22.5 kettle lid. The drum measures 34.75" in height.

If I go with the coal grate 3" from the bottom with a 9" tall basket, where should I put the lower food grate and upper food grate?

Measuring from the bottom, I was thinking the top of the basket will be at 11", lower food will be at 20" and the upper food will be at 30".

Is the lower too close to the basket?

Thank you all for your help!!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18 10 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll let others comment on grate placement, but if you decide to add an inside "lip" to accommodate the kettle lid, you could use taller metal than 2" to gain enough height to make the two grate placement easier.

Just sayin'... Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18 10 4:15 am    Post subject: Re: Food Grate Postitions Reply with quote

GAUG3 wrote:
I'm planning on having two food grates since I will be using a 22.5 kettle lid. The drum measures 34.75" in height.

If I go with the coal grate 3" from the bottom with a 9" tall basket, where should I put the lower food grate and upper food grate?

Measuring from the bottom, I was thinking the top of the basket will be at 11", lower food will be at 20" and the upper food will be at 30".

Is the lower too close to the basket?

Thank you all for your help!!


I believe you'll find the standard dimension in the "sticky" thread for UDS's. The six I've built I put the first food grate at 24" above the bottom of the coal basket. I'm pretty sure thats the standard which makes it 27" from the bottom of the inside of the barrel because my basket is 3" from the bottom also.
I put the upper one 1 -1 1/2" from the top of the barrel.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18 10 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good to know and thank you for that advice. I bought the Big Lots grill and lid will fit once I flare out the edges a little. I didn't want to do that to my Weber.

I'm looking at the bottom part of the grill and trying to think what I can do with it.

I will also do what day_trippr suggested. That way I can have a little more room between each food grate.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31 10 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I finally got around to two good hot burns. I still have a little paint on the outside. Since this weekend.. the rust came pretty fast. I plan to hit it with a wire wheel.

I don't really care about painting it; however, I need to get this rust under control.

I do not have access to a spray gun. So, I'm wondering how many spray can will I need to get.

Does anybody have a number of cans they used?
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