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Hell Fire Grill BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 17 Mar 2007 Posts: 3921 Location: Pickler's Puragatory!!
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Posted: Jun 06 2011 Post subject: Tips for maximum efficiency from lump charcoal |
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1. Double your fire grate. Turn the top one 90* from the bottom one. Another trick is to cover the fire grate with expanded steel or just about any kind of screen that will hold the charcoal off the bottom of the cooker until it almost completly burns up.
2. Dont overheat the charcoal. Lump charcoal dont need to ash completly over before its hot enough to cook with on a grill. If your using a cooker that takes advantage of the minion method then youll need most of the charcoal IN YOUR CHIMNEY to be lit so youll have a predictable temprature in the cooker.
3. Reuse the charcoal that dident burn completly the last time you cooked with it. I made a sifter out of a metal bucket and some 1/2" hardware wire that helps remove the tiny pieces and ashes.
The lid helps keep the ashes from getting airborn and keeps the charcoal coverd until you want to use.
4. Try to keep the the charcoal bunched up together while your grilling with it. Having it spread out to much increases the air flow through the pile and encourages it to temporarily burn hotter and faster than it needs to. After it burns down so far, and causing a spike in temprature, it can go out from not having enough air flow.
When you fill a charcoal basket with lump, shake it around when it gets full, this compacts the charcoal and will allow you to get more charcoal in the basket which results in a longer slower burn.
5. Never use lighter fluid.
6. Keep a long, cheap pair of tongs handy so you can rearange the hot charcoal if you need to. I always have tongs and a coal spreader next to my grill. The coal spreader doubles as a cleaning tool to remove most of the excess muck that accumulates in the kettle(I ground it to the same diameter as the kettle).
7. Always keep any type of charcoal covered and off the ground. Charcoal is a moisture magnet and it'll suck up moisture in the air, in concrete, or steel. It can pull it through a paper bag even. I keep all my bags and containers off the ground, (on 2X4s), closed and covered in my detached garage and it all stays very dry when I do this. It dont take much to cover it, I use empty charcoal bags. Alot of moisture in the air comes from up high and settles down onto the charcoal so keeping it closed and covered is one oth most effective ways to keep your charcoal dry. Allowing it to absorb moisture can make it burn unpredictably and can contibute to it poping, snapping and blowing small embers around when it does that(IMO).
My charcoal mess.

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ckone BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 23 Oct 2009 Posts: 2451 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Jun 06 2011 Post subject: |
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Good tips. How does the food cooked with the blue bags taste?
Not the K . _________________ 22.5 Weber Kettle
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Hell Fire Grill BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 17 Mar 2007 Posts: 3921 Location: Pickler's Puragatory!!
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Posted: Jun 06 2011 Post subject: |
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| ckone wrote: | Good tips. How does the food cooked with the blue bags taste?
Not the K . |
All those big bags are full homemade charcoal, got more in the retort.
Tastes great considering what I paid for it. Oak, filbert and vine maple charcoal. |
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day_trippr BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 08 May 2009 Posts: 3206 Location: Stow, MA
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Posted: Jun 06 2011 Post subject: |
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"If your using a cooker that takes advantage of the minion method then youll need most of the charcoal to be lit so youll have a predictable temprature in the cooker. "
Too encompassing. It's true for a grill, but not at all for a smoker...
Cheers! _________________ Save the planet: it's the only one with beer!
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Hell Fire Grill BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 17 Mar 2007 Posts: 3921 Location: Pickler's Puragatory!!
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Posted: Jun 06 2011 Post subject: |
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| day_trippr wrote: | "If your using a cooker that takes advantage of the minion method then youll need most of the charcoal to be lit so youll have a predictable temprature in the cooker. "
Too encompassing. It's true for a grill, but not at all for a smoker...
Cheers! |
So your saying you dont want steady, predictable temps on a smoker but you do on a grill. I dissagree with that.
In my experience if you dump a half assed lit chimney of hot charcoal on a basket your not gonna get the result you intended without monkeying around for a while to get your cooker up to temp. |
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day_trippr BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 08 May 2009 Posts: 3206 Location: Stow, MA
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Posted: Jun 06 2011 Post subject: |
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| Hell Fire Grill wrote: | | day_trippr wrote: | "If your using a cooker that takes advantage of the minion method then youll need most of the charcoal to be lit so youll have a predictable temprature in the cooker. "
Too encompassing. It's true for a grill, but not at all for a smoker...
Cheers! |
So your saying you dont want steady, predictable temps on a smoker but you do on a grill. I dissagree with that.
In my experience if you dump a half assed lit chimney of hot charcoal on a basket your not gonna get the result you intended without monkeying around for a while to get your cooker up to temp. |
That's not what your sentence says. Read it again. Taking that sentence literally, it says to get "most of your lump burning", which is pretty much the opposite of what the "minion method" actually involves.
Now, if you had said "most of your starter charcoal to be lit", that would make sense. As it's written...not so much. Indeed, the word "starter" doesn't appear anywhere in your post...
Cheers! _________________ Save the planet: it's the only one with beer!
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Hell Fire Grill BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 17 Mar 2007 Posts: 3921 Location: Pickler's Puragatory!!
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Posted: Jun 06 2011 Post subject: |
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| Thanks for sh!tng on my thread day tripper. It started being a helpfull and informative thread that I put a couple hours of my time into, that now is going backwards on account of its not meeting your standards. |
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day_trippr BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 08 May 2009 Posts: 3206 Location: Stow, MA
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Posted: Jun 06 2011 Post subject: |
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Aw, c'mon. If you really wanted to post a dictatorial manifesto, you're in the wrong place for that.
Unbunch your panties and accept what should have been taken as a helpful comment from the peanut gallery. Or don't. Your choice, but you're coming across as a rather petty poaster...
Cheers  _________________ Save the planet: it's the only one with beer!
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Hell Fire Grill BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 17 Mar 2007 Posts: 3921 Location: Pickler's Puragatory!!
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Posted: Jun 06 2011 Post subject: |
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| Look whos talking about petty. Thanks again asshole |
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Awning Guy BBQ Pro

Joined: 23 Aug 2008 Posts: 760 Location: Riverside Ca.
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Posted: Jun 06 2011 Post subject: |
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Great tips HFG. it all adds up _________________ First Build[/url]
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ckone BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 23 Oct 2009 Posts: 2451 Location: Austin, TX
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| Hell Fire Grill wrote: | | ckone wrote: | Good tips. How does the food cooked with the blue bags taste?
Not the K . |
All those big bags are full homemade charcoal, got more in the retort.
Tastes great considering what I paid for it. Oak, filbert and vine maple charcoal. |
I figured it was something like that. Some day I will live far enough away to make my own charcoal, as for now the neighbors are a little close. _________________ 22.5 Weber Kettle
OK Joe
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day_trippr BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 08 May 2009 Posts: 3206 Location: Stow, MA
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Posted: Jun 06 2011 Post subject: |
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| Hell Fire Grill wrote: | | Look whos talking about petty. Thanks again asshole |
Nice. How old are you - eight?
I couldn't count how many times I've complemented you on your cooks and related posts in the past, but the one time I point out an obvious disconnect in something you wrote, you demonstrate some serious anger management issues. I reckon that avatar of yours is a self portrait after all. Maybe a big fat glass of Calm Down Juice would help you. Maybe not.
I was going to blank out my comments and just let things lay where you left them, but now...forget it. Hopefully my comment will keep newbs from doing something stupid - like lighting off most of a pile of lump in a misinformed attempt at the Minion Method and then wonder why their cooker has run out of control...
Cheers anyway. Hope tomorrow is a better day for you... _________________ Save the planet: it's the only one with beer!
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MGeslock BBQ Fan

Joined: 10 Aug 2007 Posts: 332 Location: Fredericksburg, VA
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Posted: Jun 06 2011 Post subject: |
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Thanks for the post. I always have left over from my UDS and didn't know how to sift.
Where did you find the bucket for the sifter? That is a great idea. I may use it BEFORE I put fresh in the pit. That way the dust and small parts will not make it. |
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Oregon smoker BBQ All Star
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 6246 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Jun 06 2011 Post subject: |
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Thanks for taking your time to do a write up in time when many might need this information as we are moving into the summer months.  _________________ #3 LIAR
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Hell Fire Grill BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 17 Mar 2007 Posts: 3921 Location: Pickler's Puragatory!!
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Posted: Jun 06 2011 Post subject: |
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| day_trippr wrote: | | Hell Fire Grill wrote: | | Look whos talking about petty. Thanks again asshole |
Nice. How old are you - eight?
I couldn't count how many times I've complemented you on your cooks and related posts in the past, but the one time I point out an obvious disconnect in something you wrote, you demonstrate some serious anger management issues. I reckon that avatar of yours is a self portrait after all. Maybe a big fat glass of Calm Down Juice would help you. Maybe not.
I was going to blank out my comments and just let things lay where you left them, but now...forget it. Hopefully my comment will keep newbs from doing something stupid - like lighting off most of a pile of lump in a misinformed attempt at the Minion Method and then wonder why their cooker has run out of control...
Cheers anyway. Hope tomorrow is a better day for you... |
Your making a statement about your character with your posts here, goes to show what kind of person you really are. To repeatedly keep coming back and reaffirming your need to show us all your intellegence level. You could have made a suggestion in the beginning and I might have changed the wording, instead you had be the narcisstic piece of sh!t you are and post in a negetive way that intentionaly derails the thread. Keep showing us who needs to grow up.
Dont go looking in your PM box expecting gratitude from me. |
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SoEzzy BBQ Super All Star

Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 13183 Location: SLC, UT
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Posted: Jun 06 2011 Post subject: |
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Back off the insults or I'll close it down and let it die. _________________ Here's a change Robert.
I still work here! |
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Hell Fire Grill BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 17 Mar 2007 Posts: 3921 Location: Pickler's Puragatory!!
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Posted: Jun 07 2011 Post subject: |
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| Any kind suggestions, tips or comments are still welcome here. |
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Hell Fire Grill BBQ Super Pro

Joined: 17 Mar 2007 Posts: 3921 Location: Pickler's Puragatory!!
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Posted: Jun 07 2011 Post subject: |
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| MGeslock wrote: | Thanks for the post. I always have left over from my UDS and didn't know how to sift.
Where did you find the bucket for the sifter? That is a great idea. I may use it BEFORE I put fresh in the pit. That way the dust and small parts will not make it. |
I found that tin can at a second hand store.
To much dust and fine particals can smother the fire and cause excessive smoke so be carefull about trying to use them all at once. Try to spread them out over 2-3 burns if you have alot. I been saving them for another project I want to try. |
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Q-in BBQ Fan

Joined: 05 Sep 2009 Posts: 185 Location: West Alton MO
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Posted: Jun 07 2011 Post subject: |
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Thanks H.F.,
awesome job! |
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cityevader BBQ Pro

Joined: 29 Jun 2009 Posts: 923 Location: San Jose, CA
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Posted: Jun 11 2011 Post subject: |
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I've personally had terrible results lighting my whole backet of charcoal so "it's all lit" and placing that in my UDS and then trying to fight enormous temperature issues only to throttle it back so much, that once all the nasty dense white smoke (from it choking so badly) eventually dissipates to a proper cooking temp/TBS it's been at least an hour from first match strike to food placement.
It's vastly better to have your starterr chimney fully burning and placing it on unlit charcoal (minion) to have nearly perfect smoke/temp right from the get-go. _________________ Since Christ DIED for us, we should LIVE for Him!
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