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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13 12 10:40 am    Post subject: new smoker coming this weekend.. need advice Reply with quote

im getting this smoker this weekend, approx 7 feet long by 32" dia.. besides taking off the surface rust and getting the missing rack, any other suggestions on what i can/need to do?.. smoker and trailer

thanks for the advice!








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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13 12 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13 12 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think i got the photo size right now... sorry bout that :O(
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13 12 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just busting on you! Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13 12 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before I did anything else on it, I'd run a test burn after seasoning it. 10 lb bag of chix 1/4's to see how it cooks. Cheap enough that if it goes badly, you don't feel too bad about tossing them.

Factory-made smokers can be cantankerous enough, let alone homemade ones.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13 12 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cadmaster, as BigOrson mentioned clean her up and re-season her then see how she performs. I do not see any intakes on the firebox so I am guessing they leave the door cracked for fresh air. If that is the case I would modify the firebox size and location on the cooker to make it more efficient.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13 12 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More shelves? some Tru tells on the doors?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13 12 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Firebox looks tiny and strangely positioned.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13 12 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bigger firebox mounted lower would be my first mods.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13 12 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All good advise so far. I hope you keep us up to date with photos as you progress. Good luck.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13 12 10:13 pm    Post subject: Re: new smoker coming this weekend.. need advice Reply with quote

cadmaster wrote:
im getting this smoker this weekend, approx 7 feet long by 32" dia.. besides taking off the surface rust and getting the missing rack, any other suggestions on what i can/need to do?.. smoker and trailer

thanks for the advice! Maybe I,m just missing seeing it ,but is there a smoke stack







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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13 12 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cook some 1/4's chicken on it 1st.. see how it holds heat.. good idea

it does have an intake.. its a door below the firebox.. i thought it was unusual.. i planned on adding one to the door of the firebox

im kinda vertically challenged, so when the doors are flipped up/open i cant reach the handle.. gotta get that fixed too :O)

at one time i had some info on firebox to tank ratio.. this is a 7 foot long by 32" dia tank.. anyone know off top of their head what the approx min and max firebox size should be?

thanks fellas!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13 12 10:20 pm    Post subject: Re: new smoker coming this weekend.. need advice Reply with quote

texoak51 wrote:
! Maybe I,m just missing seeing it ,but is there a smoke stack


It is there. on the left of the first picture pushed to the back like the firebox.

I agree with test run first, but I would probably want to change the firebox, and dress up the trailer with fenders and such.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13 12 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CM, there's a calculator in the stickies section.
http://www.thesmokering.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=20871

I came up with:
Firebox = 22507.52 cu. in
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13 12 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah your going to need a bigger firebox for sure. By the calculations I got off of Feldons BBQ Calc, your going to need 22,508 cubic inches. You will need 28 1/2 square firebox to get the amount you need. Look at your exhaust stack also, it looks short by the picture but hard to say what diameter it is. A 6" ID stack will need to be 41", a 7" ID will need to be 30". Double check and see what size your exhaust is and then you can run the numbers and see if its right. I would say the opening from the firebox to the chamber will have to be modified with a new firebox also, but that can be addressed once you get the old firebox off and preparing for a much needed new one.

Hers the link to the calculator that I was messing around with and got some of your numbers.
Link to BBQ Pit Calculator
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14 12 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow.. thats a big firebox.. thats a huge firebox.. but i guess thats whats needed..

just curious, 3 questions..

1. whats the advantage of having a 6" ID stack versus a 4", does is make that much of a difference?

2. how does having a longer stack make a difference

3. the firebox needs to be approx 28" sq/cube, im assuming the firebox ratio to the tank is so more wood can be added to make that size tank reach and keep a certain temperature?

thanks for the help fellas!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14 12 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cadmaster,
1. whats the advantage of having a 6" ID stack versus a 4", does is make that much of a difference?
The 6" will breathe better than the 4". Longer exhausts often result in the heat/smoke stalling causing the cooker to work harder and in some cases causing stale smoke.

2. how does having a longer stack make a difference
Refer to my first answer, sometimes a smaller longer exhaust hurts you. The calculator only lets you know the volume not the end results, This is when some experience with exhaust size and placement helps.

3. the firebox needs to be approx 28" sq/cube, im assuming the firebox ratio to the tank is so more wood can be added to make that size tank reach and keep a certain temperature?
The ratio of the firebox is so that you can run a small hot fire and sustain proper temps using what I consider reserve heat in the firebox. This happens when all things such as intake opening into the cooking chamber and exhaust work together. Most times a large fire results in erratic temps and soot from an unclean burn.
I hope this helps. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14 12 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it takes years to learn stuff like that.. appreciate the knowledge everyone.. will make mods and send pics

thanks!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14 12 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks like you have plenty of room on the inside. You might think about converting it into a reverse flow.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17 12 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i bought it and brought her home today..

reverse flow smoker.. i read up on that (alien bbq had a post that briefly described it).. not a bad idea

anyone have more detail on reverse flow smokers? i have a guy who welds for a living, but round here where we live you don't see to many smokers beyond the standard ones bought in stores.. would like to give him some detail/instructions so he knows what to build if i decide to go that route..

also, (the answers may be more opinion) is it worth going to the effort to make this a reverse flow.. is it worth it?

thanks for the responses fellas!
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